Maria Elisabeth Korting (Taufe)

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schneiderdan
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Ich brauche Hilfe beim Lesen dieser Aufzeichnung. Die Paten sind nicht notwendig. Ich interessiere mich besonders für die Namen der Eltern. Anscheinend wird die Mutter nicht erwähnt? Danke im Voraus!

http://www.archion.de/p/8d8b36d3d2/

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Maria Elisabeth: Gottfriedt? Kortings, ein?? Hiryigen??? einwohners Töchterlein?
ist geborhet den 26 october, Pathen wohren
(...)

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Hi Daniel,

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Maria Elisabeth: Gottfriedt Kortings, eines hiesigen Einwohners töchterlein
ist getaufft den 26. October, Pathen wahren
(...)

Indeed, the mother's name unfortunately is not mentioned.

Gruß,
Michael

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The name of this child's mother is:

Elisabeth Püschel (wife of Gottfried Körting, who is Andreas Körting's son)

Gottfried Körting, Andreas Körtings, eines Ackermans in Möst sehl.
eheleibl. Sohn, undt Jungfer Elisabeth Püschelin, Meister
Gottfriedt Püschels, bürgers, Schusters, undt brauherr al-
hier ehel. tochter sind am 17. July copuliret worden

http://www.archion.de/p/60a7773805/

Vera

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A question to you:

as you probably noted the above birth/baptism record is marked with "NB" (see your question in another subforum).

What do you think why this record is marked / outlined that way?
What's special / notable about it?

Best, Vera

schneiderdan
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Thank you so much, Michael and Vera, for the help reading and for finding the next record!

Now that we've reached the 17th century it's getting harder to find the records. Yesterday we've spent hours looking for six records and found only one, lol...

Vera, about the NB on Maria Elisabeth Korting's record, I'd say it refers exactly to the fact that her mother's name is missing. I wonder what that means though. Could it be she wasn't a "legitimate" daughter (since the word "ehelich" is also missing) or could it be some other reason? We're only beggining our search, and still getting used to most of these things. Also, the record tells about the baptism date, but the birth date is missing as well.

Thank you so much for all the help you've been giving us!

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Vera, about the NB on Maria Elisabeth Korting's record, I'd say it refers exactly to the fact that her mother's name is missing. I wonder what that means though. Could it be she wasn't a "legitimate" daughter (since the word "ehelich" is also missing) or could it be some other reason? We're only beggining our search, and still getting used to most of these things. Also, the record tells about the baptism date, but the birth date is missing as well.

Oh, wait. I've now noticed the dates. She was born only three months after her parents' marriage. Coud this be what the NB was about?

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Oh, wait. I've now noticed the dates. She was born only three months after her parents' marriage. Coud this be what the NB was about?

Yes, that correct.

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Also, the record tells about the baptism date, but the birth date is missing as well.

These are church records and from the primary viewpoint of the church, the only thing that matters is a baptism date.

That said: a birth date cannot be missing at all. In case it is provided as well, it' a welcome add-on for the genealogist.

However, since quite a number of children died at very young age, it's more or less safe to assume that a child was born shortly (a few days up to perhaps a week) prior to the baptism.

Regarding "not provided" mother's name: check the various record samples which you already have at hand (over the past weeks being here) and you will notice that baptism records are a quite vague/unreliable source only to learn details about a mother's name.
Instead: check the marriages in order to learn the details about a child's parents.

Thanks and regards, Vera

schneiderdan
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lol.. I love these findings. It's amazing how this shows us how so very unlikely it is for each of us to have been born exactly like we did.

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That said: a birth date cannot be missing at all. In case it is provided as well, it' a welcome add-on for the genealogist.

However, since quite a number of children died at very young age, it's more or less safe to assume that a child was born shortly (a few days up to perhaps a week) prior to the baptism.

Regarding "not provided" mother's name: check the various record samples which you already have at hand (over the past weeks being here) and you will notice that baptism records are a quite vague/unreliable source only to learn details about a mother's name.
Instead: check the marriages in order to learn the details about a child's parents.

Indeed. Thank you once again, Vera, for the tips!

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