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Pat64
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Guten Abend,

http://www.archion.de/p/6ca41b0ac5/ (Simon Vom Berg und Anna...)

Is anyone able to kindly tell me the first and last names of Anna's father? Is she from Crailsheim or another village?

Whom does "Cantor" refer to?

Vielen Dank,
Patrizia

Franz_Ridler
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Simon vom Berg mit Anns Rössin Philip Rössen gewe-
senen Cantor alhie eheliche Dochter.

Philip Ross war Cantor.

Franz_Ridler
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Anna ist von Crailsheim ("alhie".

Pat64
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I should have spot that by now!!

Pat64
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Danke, Franz!

So, the last name is Röss. The "en" is the declination for the genitive, right?

And Philip was a singer. Does "Cantor" imply something more than that?

Zitiert von: Franz_Ridler
Simon vom Berg mit Anns Rössin Philip Rössen gewe-
senen Cantor alhie eheliche Dochter.

Philip Ross war Cantor.

Franz_Ridler
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Zitiert von: Pat64
So, the last name is Röss. The "en" is the declination for the genitive, right?

And Philip was a singer. Does "Cantor" imply something more than that?


The name is probably Ross; ö and -en is genitive.

Cantor is not a singer but someone who is responsible for music in the church, i. e. playing the organ or leading a choir, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor_(Christianity)

Pat64
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Vielen Dank nochmal.

Zitiert von: Franz_Ridler
Zitiert von: Pat64
So, the last name is Röss. The "en" is the declination for the genitive, right?

And Philip was a singer. Does "Cantor" imply something more than that?


The name is probably Ross; ö and -en is genitive.

Cantor is not a singer but someone who is responsible for music in the church, i. e. playing the organ or leading a choir, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor_(Christianity)

Asheville56
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Ross (family name). Patrizia, I have been looking everywhere in Baden for this name. My great great grandfather, Jacob Ross was born circa 1828 somewhere in the Duchy of Baden. Because he married a woman born in the Bas Rhin area of France, I looked at 348 Catholic Baden church records (mostly in the western areas near the Rhine River) for this marriage record. They appear not to have married in France. I have not seen one record with this family name. I am going to start searching the same churches for his birth record. He came to Amerika in 1855.

kari
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Philipp Röss was Cantor at the Latin School in Crailsheim from 1588-1593,
he came from Iphofen(expelled for his religious belief,
afterward, he was the minister of Wittelshofen.

see https://archive.org/details/GeschichteDesHumanistischenSchulwesensInWuerttembergBand2Teil2/page/n69/mode/2up

Pat64
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Good evening Barbara.

Sorry, I just saw your message. I did not have a chance to connect lately.

I have been massively researching on many direct lines for a US friend and one of her ancestors was Anna Ross/Röss born around 1593 in Crailsheim (Baden-Württemberg), where she died in 1669. Her father was Philip, who died in Crailsheim in 1645.

Usually, I write down siblings as well, but I haven't managed yet.

Since your 2G grandfather was born around 1828, maybe you should check the Crailsheim 1860-1899 Family Register and luckily find a Ross family group with the indication of a Jacob who left for America. Worth giving it a try.

Here is the link http://www.archion.de/p/7ed6d12a02/

Zitiert von: Asheville56
Ross (family name). Patrizia, I have been looking everywhere in Baden for this name. My great great grandfather, Jacob Ross was born circa 1828 somewhere in the Duchy of Baden. Because he married a woman born in the Bas Rhin area of France, I looked at 348 Catholic Baden church records (mostly in the western areas near the Rhine River) for this marriage record. They appear not to have married in France. I have not seen one record with this family name. I am going to start searching the same churches for his birth record. He came to Amerika in 1855.