Marie Josephine Wiesmeier born in 1854

Hello
I am looking for the birth certificate of my great-great-grandmother, she was born in Bavaria in 1854. She was not catholic. I have been trying to find this document in the parrishes, one by one, with no success. Is there anyone in this forum who can help?
Thank you!
 
In order to provide an idea about the spreading of the surname "Wiesmeier"



....quite a huge area, as well a widespread name, right?

To be serious: which other proven details do you have regarding your great-great-grandmother, please?

Thank you.
 
Hello
She came to Perú with her parents, Joseph Wiesmeier and Anna Schurin.
She was baptized in Perú December 1871 in order to marry my great-great-grandfather who was a Catholic.
According to the Baptism Records, she was German, born in Munich.
They got married January 2, 1872.
Regards,
 
Yes, that is my family tree.
We have all the documents from Perú.
We need her birth certificate to prove she was actually born in Germany.
That is what I have been trying to find with no results so far...
 
OK, thank you.

In order to avoid unnecessary double work -given the fact that it is not possible to automatically search for names/family names on Archion- then

.....please let us know in detail, please: Which church registers being online available on Archion did you already check?

Thanks you again.
 
On February 1, 1860 your family appears in a Census in Schleswig-Holstein, Germany

Hohner Harde
Kirchspiel Rendsburg, Vorwerk
Amt Hütten


Kathengebäude 79

Joseph Wissmeier, 43 years old [calculated year of birth > 1817], verheirathet (married), from Baiern (Bavaria), Schlosser und Hausvater (locksmith and head of household), katholisch (Roman Catholic)

Anna Wissmeier, geb. / maiden name Schram [Schrum], 44 years old [calculated year of birth > 1816], verheirathet (married), from Koldenbüttel, (no profession), Lutheranerin (Evangelical / Lutheran)

Josephine Wissmeier, 6 years old [calculated year of birth > 1854], unverheirathet (single / unmarried), Rendsburg, seine Tochter (his daughter)





Koldenbüttel - Taufen / Baptisms 1817 [Josephine's mother!!]

Antje [variation of: Anna] Schrum



Hope that helps. ;)

Vera
 
And here is your great-great grandmother............

Rendsburg, Sankt Marien, Taufen [Baptisms] 1855 [born 1854!]

Josephine Christine Johanne Wiesmeier
[the given name "Marie / Maria" was for granted given to her upon her Catholic baptism in Peru, not earlier!]



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....her parents marriage

Rendsburg, Sankt Marien, Trauungen [marriages] 1854


"Wiesmeyer - Schrum"


[this record is continued at the top of the next page!]


....and with the provided details about the groom "Wiesmeyer" you can now also search for his family / ancestors in Bavaria.
Please keep in mind that he was of Roman Catholic religious belief - say: the relevant church registers are on Matricula Online and not on Archion


[And just in case: it is beyond the scope of this forum to provide reading aid for those records from Matricula online. I am really sorry.]
 
Hello
I have no words to thank you for this data.
It is very important for us to know where we come from, who our ancestors were.
I don´t know how you did it! but you did it!
Regards,
 
Hello
One last question, how can I get a certified copy of my great great grandmother baptism certificate?
Please advice regarding this matter.
Regards,
 
Yes, you are correct.
Since she traveled to Peru and got married here, her marriage certificate and the other documents needed can be found in the registers in Peru.
I know it will be difficult but at least it is worth trying.
Thank you once again for your help.
Kind regards,
 
It's always interesting to follow the discussions in this forum.

Vera has already provided the link to the marriage record of Joseph Wiesmeyer in 1854 (https://www.archion.de/p/6494a93af1/). According to this record Joseph Wiesmayer came from Eichstätt in Bavaria. Both facts - he was catholic and came from Bavaria to Northern Germany - sound a bit unusual, but it's what we find in the documents.

Checking the parish registers of Eichstätt it's possible to find the birth record of Joseph in 1817: https://data.matricula-online.eu/de...tt-dompfarrei-unsere-liebe-frau/19-01/?pg=191 and https://data.matricula-online.eu/de...tt-dompfarrei-unsere-liebe-frau/19-01/?pg=192).
The names in this entry perfectly match with the names given in the entry of 1854. Even the address in Eichstätt is given (Haus Nummer 49). You can use this link (https://atlas.bayern.de/?c=660151,5417844&z=19&r=0&l=historisch&t=ba&mid=2) to identify the exact location in Eichstätt.

Matricula is another platform for church records beside Archion and refers to roman catholic parish registers. I guess the baptism record of Joseph may be of interest for you as well. Have fun to continue your search.
 
Since she traveled to Peru and got married here, her marriage certificate and the other documents needed can be found in the registers in Peru.

To be clear: in order to apply for citizenship - in your(!!) specific case were all is dependent on an arbitrary decision - you need at the very least (besides all the records from the archives in Peru which without any gap need to provide the "row / chain" between the above mentioned emigrants / immigrants to you) certified copies of the following records:

-birth record Marie Josephine Wiesmeier
-marriage record of her parents
-birth record of her mother
-marriage record of her mother's parents
-birth record of her father
-marriage record of her father's parents

Unless not already done you will for granted be able to find any further records on your own.

Kind regards,
Vera
 
Dear Vera
How can you help me with this issue?
For me, being in Peru, is nearly impossible to access to this data.
Please let me know.
I would be very grateful if you could help.
Kind regards,
 
Hello Milagros.

Please send me a private message (see envelope symbol near the upper right of this window) describing your needs / difficulties.

Thank you.
Vera
 
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