Böhm family - help please

SilverLady · Sonntag um 08:12

Hello,
I am very sorry I do not speak, read or write German.
I am researching the Böhm family and have found some information about their lives here in Australia, but I would like to find information about their lives and families in Germany. I joined Archion with the hope that I could find these records. But I am having trouble understanding the resources and reading the old script. From my research Heinrich August Christian Böhm was born in Clausthal on 21 August 1824. He was the son of a miner called Heinrich August Böhm. He left Germany in 1847 for Australia. In 1853 he married Caroline Auguste Charlotte Wilhemine Wagner in Australia. Caroline was born in Clausthal on 18 March 1836, the daughter of Johann Gottlieb Wagener, a miner in Clausthal. Caroline and her family came to Australia in 1852. They married and lived in Adelaide, Australia and raised a family there.

I am wondering if there if someone very kind out there with a little time and lots of familiarity with the records who could look into them for me and see if they can find information about these two people and their parents? I have some information about Christian and Caroline's baptisms, but cannot make out what I am thinking is their godparents' names at all. I do not have any details about their parent's - dates/places of birth, marriage details, death details etc. I would be very grateful for any help. Melinda

vnagel2004 · Sonntag um 08:29

Hello Melinda.

Not to be able to decipher old German script is no issue since you are welcome to ask for Reading Aid.

How to do that is described here

Keine Lesehilfe ohne Permalink / No Reading Aid without Permalink

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Did you already find the records of interest, or not so?

Thanks and welcome at Archion‘s user forum
Vera

agerbig22 · Sonntag um 08:44

Für den Anfang und die weiteren Helfer hier zunächst einmal die Geburtseinträge im Kirchenbuch von Clausthal:
For starters, and for the other helpers here, first of all the birth entries in the church register of Clausthal:

Hier der Geburtseintrag für Heinrich August Christian Böhm: https://www.archion.de/p/860e2dfcaf/ (Nr. 214)
Hier der Geburtseintrag für Caroline Wagner: https://www.archion.de/p/28d292a848/ (Nr. 86)

user722 · Sonntag um 10:07

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Clausthal baptisms

[Eltern]
214
Bergmann
Heinrich August Böhm
uxor (=Ehefrau)
Joh.[anne] Friederike Heber-
le

[Kind]
Heinrich August Christi-
an.

[geboren]
21 [August]

[getauft]
12 [September]

[Taufzeugen]
1) Heinr. Christi. Engelhardt
Schöll
2) Heinrich Christian
Anton Bergener?
3) Augustine Henriette
Friederike Geiger
4) Henriette Antoniette
Heberle

user722 · Sonntag um 10:10

-Fehler-

user722 · Sonntag um 10:17

Clausthal marriages
https://www.archion.de/p/010f13fccf/

Dec.[ember] 26. [Anno 1821]
56.Heinrich August Böhm, Bergmann hieselbst,
des wey.[land] (=verstorbenen) hiesigen Bürgers und Bergmanns,
Heinrich Friedrich Julius Böhm, ehelicher Sohn, mit
Jungfer Johanne /Christiane/ Friederike Heberle, des wey.[land]
hiesigen Bürgers und Bergmanns ~~Johann Gottlieb~~ /Heinrich Andreas/
Heberle, ehelichen Tochter.

user722 · Sonntag um 10:24

Clausthal marriages
https://www.archion.de/p/fd43f4ff10/

Dec.[ember] 26. [Anno 1821]
60. Johann Gottlieb Wagener, Bergmann hieselbst, des
wey.[land] hiesigen Bergmanns, August Wilhelm Wagener
ehelicher Sohn, mit
Johanne Dorothee Magdalene Heckmann, des Pfeiffenhändlers
—- next page —-
Johann Lorenz Heckmann zu Osterode, ehelichen Tochter.

user722 · Sonntag um 10:32

Clausthal baptisms

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[Eltern]
86.
Wagener, Johann
Gottlieb, Bergmann.
uxor
Joh.[anne] Dorothee Heckmann.

[Kind]
Caroline Auguste
Charlotte Wilhelmine.

[geboren]
18 [März 1836]

[getauft]
17 [April 1836]

[Taufzeugen]
1) August Demel.
2) Aug.[ust] Friedrich Wilhelm Liebe-
geld.
3) Friederike Charlotte Wimmer
geb.[orene] Dräger.
4) Caroline Henriette Friederike
Wimmer geb. Kutscher.

SilverLady · Sonntag um 12:21

vnagel2004 schrieb:
Hello Melinda.

Not to be able to decipher old German script is no issue since you are welcome to ask for Reading Aid.

How to do that is described here

Keine Lesehilfe ohne Permalink / No Reading Aid without Permalink

Mit unseren Permalinks können Sie auf eine ganz bestimmte Stelle einer Kirchenbuchseite auf Archion verlinken, um im Forum darüber zu diskutieren oder Lesehilfe zu einem bestimmten Eintrag zu erhalten. With our permalinks, you can link to a very specific place on a church book page on Archion...

www.archion.de

Did you already find the records of interest, or not so?

Thanks and welcome at Archion‘s user forum
Vera

Hello Vera, apart from the baptism records which someone has helped me with, no I haven't found the records yet. I am having trouble with finding my way around, as well as reading the old-style writing and the heading titles in German etc. I am hoping to find some help with it. I'm embarrassed as I can usually figure things out - but this has baffled me. Thank you. Melinda

vnagel2004 · Sonntag um 12:37

Thanks for clarifying, Melinda.

Meanwhile you already received the desired records which will for granted be of tremendous help.

You're welcome. Vera

SilverLady · Sonntag um 13:12

user722 schrieb:
Clausthal baptisms

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[Eltern]
86.
Wagener, Johann
Gottlieb, Bergmann.
uxor
Joh.[anne] Dorothee Heckmann. [Kind]
Caroline Auguste
Charlotte Wilhelmine. [geboren]
18 [März 1836] [getauft]
17 [April 1836] [Taufzeugen]
1) August Demel.
2) Aug.[ust] Friedrich Wilhelm Liebe-
geld.
3) Friederike Charlotte Wimmer
geb.[orene] Dräger.
4) Caroline Henriette Friederike
Wimmer geb. Kutscher.

User 722, I just wanted to say thank you SO MUCH for your help with these baptism and marriage records. I am very grateful. Melinda

user722 · Sonntag um 13:37

a further ’Böhm’ marriage in Clausthal
https://www.archion.de/p/5e026e88d4/

eod.[em] (same day as above: Nov.[ember] 21, 1782
Friedrich Heinrich Julius Böhm ein Bergmann all-
hier, des hies.[igen] Bürgers und Bergmanns Joh.[ann] Tobias
Böhms ehel.[icher] Sohn, und
Johanna Maria Weiland (here: surname!), weil.[and] (=deceased) Joh.[ann] Christian Wei-
lands eines gewes.[enen] Bergmanns allhier nachgel.[assene] ehel.[iche]
Tochter, post antic.[ipatum] concub.[itum](*)

(*) https://conversations.de-academic.com/10105/Concubitus
’nach vorzeitigem Beischlaf’

user722 · Sonntag um 21:53

Some more information:
birth record of Heinrich August Böhm’s bride
https://www.archion.de/p/756e173cdd/

[Nr.]97
[Eltern]
Bergmann
Heinr.[ich] Andr:[eas] Heberle
uxor
Joh.[anna] Christiane Kitt-
ler

[Kind]
Christiane Friede-
rica Henriette

[geboren]
28 [April 1802]

[getauft]
2 [May 1802]

[Taufzeugen]
1) Gottlob Brede
2) Georg Heinrich Degen
3) Joh. Christiane Müllern
4) Friederi. Christi. Schöllen.

[later added:] Gest.[orben] 3 Juni 1879.

- - - - - - - - -

and the marriage record of Christiane Friederica Henriette Heberle’s parents
https://www.archion.de/p/f44bb6b8ed/

31. [Dec. 1797]
59. ~~Georg~~ /Heinrich/ Andreas Heberle, Zimmergeselle und Ein-
wohner hieselbst, des hiesigen Bürgers und Bergmanns
Just Heinrich Heberle, ehel.[icher] Sohn, und
Johanna Christiana Kittler, sel.[igen] Johann Friedrich
Kittlers, gewesenen Bergmanns und Einwohners
allhier, nachgel.[assene] ehel.[iche] Tochter.

SilverLady · Gestern um 10:46

Hello. Thank you so much for everyone's help. Can anyone suggest where I might find photos of Heinrich August Christian Böhm (1824-1899) and Caroline Auguste Charlotte Wilhemine Wagener/Wagner (1836-1918)? H. A. C. travelled from Germany to Australia in 1847 and Caroline in 1852. kind regards, Melinda

vnagel2004 · Gestern um 19:02

SilverLady schrieb:
Can anyone suggest where I might find photos of Heinrich August Christian Böhm (1824-1899) and Caroline Auguste Charlotte Wilhemine Wagener/Wagner (1836-1918)?

Most likely in Australia. At least your chance to find photos of these two people in Australia seems somewhat higher than in Germany.
I trust you're not the only one in Australia with family ties to this couple.

That said I'd suggest to use Genealogy portals like Ancestry / ancestry.com.au or the like to find other researchers who research these people. Or make use of genealogical societies / historic societies focusing on the region where this couple resided in Australia - most likely Adelaide....

Such approach worked for me respectively for members of my family -in finding various "historic family papers incl. photos- in Australia, in the U.S. and also in some European countries.
Kind regards, Vera

vnagel2004 · Gestern um 19:47

I just did a little "cross-check" on Ancestry Australia and noticed two -somehow more promising than others- private(!) family trees holding information about

Heinrich August Christian Bohm
Born: 1824 in Clausthal, Germany
11 attached records
14 attached sources

...quite a number of attached records and sources.

In case not already known to you.... why not try to contact the tree owner....

Good luck.