Symbol on record, any ideas what it means?

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http://www.archion.de/p/a7cc097821/

Record #10, Gottlieb Klatt & Anna Catherina Lehrke marriage entry. Couple of questions.

First, the st 1684 under the date, any ideas what that is referring to? If it's the year 1684, it can't be about them personally, this is their marriage record in 1818. I've seen these notations with different numbers on other records in this collection. At first I thought it might be an abbreviation for sterbe, but I can't make the connection with the number 1684. I'm hoping someone has answer.

Second, any ideas where I could get their actual marriage record? This looks like just a like of marriages in 1818. No parents are listed and I am having a hard time figuring out who Gottlieb's father is.

Thanks for your help,

Tina
 
The "St." is some military sign. On picture 42 in the column name it stated something with military and to with military priest it belongs.
 
Thank you for catching that and sharing it with me. So I am not really understanding who this could be identifying. Is it the military priest of the wife or the spouses, or maybe it doesn't say.
 
Sorry for my short answer above (I was in a hurry :) ).

I never heard of this topic before, but after a short search in the internet I found an old book covering this topic:
https://books.google.de/books?id=Da...ge&q=militärperson braut zur parochie&f=false

I don't understand really the details, but it seems as if a military person marries the question is who is entitled to marry the couple: the priest in the garrison or the priest of the bride's parish.

It is important for the priest, because he gets a fee for the marriage, the "Stolgebühr". According to the book only the priest who really marries the couple is entitled to get the fee.

Maybe this "St. xxxx" is an abbreviation for "Stolgebühr No. xxxx", because the priest in the garrison got the fee and the marriage in this curch book is only for documentation.


Best regards,
Frank
 
You are awesome! This is the first explanation that actually makes sense. Do you know if military church records are available anywhere? This is the first I have heard of them.
 
I studied this church book a bit. If the "St." is linked to the fee and is somehow a number in another book, I would expect an increasing number with the years. But the number jumps around and for the father of the bride sometimes an extra "St." number is given.

Maybe this "St." number is some military ID number of the persons.
 
That's what I was thinking too. Any ideas where I can find a roster? Or a garrison map? I've been searching online, but no success.
 
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