Accessing 1585 Calenberg Muster Roll

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Hello everyone, it's me again.

Does anyone have this book?
Die Bevölkerung des Fürstentums Calenberg-Göttingen gegen Ende des 16. Jahrhunderts
die calenbergische Musterungsrolle von 1585 und andere einschlägige Quellen
By Max Burchard · 1935
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I can see from Google Books' search that there are people with the Mesenbring / Mesenbrinck last name listed in the 1585 muster roll for Calenburg, but because the book where it's published is not in the public domain, I can't see the whole page on Google Books:

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Die Bevölkerung des Fürstentums Calenberg-Göttingen gegen Ende des 16. Jahrhunderts

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Does anyone have access to this book, or know how I could get a scan of at least pages 189 and 196?
 
Please be precise…

…it is CalenBERG

and not Calenburg

Thanks.

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There are of course various libraries in the US which have this book in their holdings, i.e. NARA

If all else fails you may contact the
NLF (Niedersächsischer Landesverein für Familienkunde) in Hannover.

For contact data please see the pinned topic in this sub forum.

Thanks again.
 
Thank you for your help. I contacted the NLF and they sent me scans of the two pages along with a helpful explanation of what the numbers and abbreviations mean.
 
Update: I contacted the Hathitrust digital library and informed them that the author of the book has been deceased for more than 70 years (and therefore the book is in the public domain), so they have released their scanned copy and it is available online now (as long as you are viewing it from outside the U.S.):

 
Hallo,
in der Calenbergische Musterungsrolle von 1585 werden folgende Mesenbring genannt:

Seite 189: Flecken Erichshagen: Hans Mesenbringk 78 R2 (78 Jahre, Waffe: R2 = Lang- und Kurzrohr). Ludeke Mesenbrinck 37 R (37 Jahre, Waffe: R = Rohr)

Seite 196: Osterwald: Ackerleute: Ludeke Mesenbrinck 30, Lr (Waffe: Lr = Langrohr).

Seite 197: Osterwald: Halbspänner: Hans Mesenbring 34 Sp (Waffe: Sp = Spieß). Köter: Berend Mesenbringk 60 Sp.

Seite 203: Bordenau: Jacob Mesenbringk 37 Lr Kr (Waffe: Lr = Langrohr, Kr = Kurzrohr).

Seite 204: Norddrebber: Wichmann Mesenbringk 40 Lr.

Seite 210: Neustadt am Rübenberge: Friedrich Meisenbring 70 Fs (Waffe: Fs = Federspieß)

Seite 330: Hannover, Schmerjohanns Hof: Heinrich Mesenbringk


Halbspänner: waren grössere hörige Bauern, die mit zwei Pferden zu Spanndiensten verpflichtet waren. Nach dem Ackermännern standen sie in der bäuerlichen Hierarchie an zweier Stelle.
Köter: Dorfbewohner, die einen Kotten (eine Kate) besaßen. Sie hatten nur geringen Landbesitz.
(Quelle: Wikipedia)
 
Hello, could anyone with access to Max Burchard’s 1935 book please check the surname index for the following names/variants?
Knölke, Knölcke, Knolke, Knolcke, Nölke, Nölcke, Nolke, Nolcke, Noleke, Nöliken, Nulke, Nulcke
I am especially interested in any occurrence around Wunstorf, Neustadt am Rübenberge, Rehburg or the wider Calenberg area.
A page number and place would be enough. Many thanks!
 
This book has a register for family names in alphabetical order

Something close to your request for a look up:

Noldeke / Noldeken 176 [Limmer bei Hannover], 203 [Otternhagen], 265 [Bothfeld], 267 [Engelborstel], 268 [Godshorn]

Nothing at all with the character sequence: Nölk.... / Nolk.... / Nulk.... or similar.


Knoke / Knoken, Knocke / Knocken, Knacken on multiple pages
Knokel, Knockel 45, 78
Knokeler 266

Nothing at all with the character sequence: Knölk.... / Knolk.... or similar.

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Regarding the places Wunstorf, Neustadt am Rübenberge, Rehburg .... this book contains no family name close to those you're interested in.

Greetings, Vera
 
In addition regarding your request a partial quote from this book

starting on book page #171

"Huldigung und Musterung in Neustadt am Rübenberge am 20. Juli 1585

Die dahin Beschiedenen als die Gerichte Neustadt..., Blumenau..., Munzel..., Rehburg... und Ricklingen, die Städte Neustadt und Wunstorf, der Flecken Rehburg, die Klöster Marienwerder, Loccum, Mariensee und das Stift Wunstorf...."

ending on book page # 212
 
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Much appreciated Vera!

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Thank you very much, Vera — this is extremely helpful.
Could I ask one final favour? The Noldeke / Noldeken entries are interesting, particularly page 203 [Otternhagen].
Would you be able to tell me the full entry/entries on page 203 for Noldeke/Noldeken, including the person's first name and any other information given?
I am trying to establish whether this surname could conceivably relate to the Knölke family who appear in Wunstorf by 1618.
Many thanks again!
 
vnagel2004 schrieb:
Would you be able to tell me the full entry/entries on page 203 for Noldeke/Noldeken, including the person's first name and any other information given?
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#203

Otternhagen

Curt Noldeken 25 Lr

[quote from page #4 and #5]
"Die hinzugefügte Zahl gibt das -offenbar vielfach stark abgerun-
dete - Lebensalter an. Dahinter findet sich in abgekürzter Form die
Angabe der Bewaffnung. Die Musterrolle selbst gebraucht fol-
gende Abkürzungen:

....
Lr für Langrohr
....."
[end of quote]

You're welcome, Vera
 
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Hi Vera,

Thank you very much — that is extremely helpful. I know I said my last request was my last request, so apologies for immediately proving myself wrong!

The Otternhagen entry for Curt Noldeken, aged 25, has turned out to be particularly interesting for my research. If it isn't too much trouble, could I ask one genuinely final follow-up?

Would you be able to give me the full Noldeke/Noldeken entries from pages 176, 265, 267 and 268, including the person's first name, age (if given), location and weapon abbreviation?
I'm trying to establish whether Curt at Otternhagen was part of a wider local family group, and whether any of these men could belong to the same generation or family.

I promise not to call this one the "last request" in case I tempt fate again! :-)

Many thanks again for your kindness and help.

Best wishes,

Dean

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Dean, could you please do me a real favour?
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Thank you very much.
 
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