Last name please

[Tkbecker]

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On a previous post I asked for help with Anna's last name on her marriage record in Rohrbeck, and it was Ziege. I found her baptism record in Schlenzer and here it looks like Ziehen.

Her brother is on the same scan right side: https://www.archion.de/p/8335cb6ef9/

Is her last name Ziehen or Ziehe?

Thanks,

Tina

 

[Tkbecker]

https://www.archion.de/p/c4fe9cb128/ I did find a death record for old Peter Ziege Schultzen in Schlenzer. So I am beginning to wonder if Ziege and Ziehe are the same family name or completely different. They both are Schultzen so I am confused.

 

[KoenigAguar]

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On a previous post I asked for help with Anna's last name on her marriage record in Rohrbeck, and it was Ziege. I found her baptism record in Schlenzer and here it looks like Ziehen.

Her brother is on the same scan right side: https://www.archion.de/p/8335cb6ef9/

Is her last name Ziehen or Ziehe?

Thanks,

Tina

The name is Ziehe.
Ziehen is the genitive form

Den 8. Septembris ist Peter Ziehen, des Schultzen Tochter Anna getauft wor-
den. Die Pathen sind gewesen: Maria Arndtinn; Anna Stahlber-
ginn; Tobias Ulrich, der Schulmeister

would translate to

The 8th September Peter Ziehe's, the mayor's daughter Anna has been bap-
tized. Godfathers have been: Maria Arndt*, Anna Stahlberg;
Tobias Ulrich, the schoolmaster (teacher)

* the ending "inn" or "in" denotes the female form of the family name

 

[KoenigAguar]

https://www.archion.de/p/c4fe9cb128/ I did find a death record for old Peter Ziege Schultzen in Schlenzer. So I am beginning to wonder if Ziege and Ziehe are the same family name or completely different. They both are Schultzen so I am confused.

Den 25 Maij, ist der alte Peter Ziege, des Schultzen allhier
Vater begraben worden

the 25 May, old Peter Ziege, the local mayor's
father has been buried

I would assume Ziege and Ziehe are just different ways of pronunciation in the local dialect- fixed spelling of family names does not exist before 1875 in Germany

 

[Tkbecker]

Den 25 Maij, ist der alte Peter Ziege, des Schultzen allhier
Vater begraben worden

the 25 May, old Peter Ziege, the local mayor's
father has been buried

I would assume Ziege and Ziehe are just different ways of pronunciation in the local dialect- fixed spelling of family names does not exist before 1875 in Germany

Thank you, I appreciate the detailed explanation. So another name I have come across is Schültzen in baptism records, I would then assume Schültze is the actual name, correct?

 

[KoenigAguar]

If the constellation of the wording is similar to the entry above, yes.
Schültze is a rather unusual name, though, I presume it is rather Schultze

 

[Tkbecker]

If the constellation of the wording is similar to the entry above, yes.
Schültze is a rather unusual name, though, I presume it is rather Schultze

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Actually, I typed it incorrectly in my comment above it should have been Schütze. Would that be correct?

 

[KoenigAguar]

Yes, Schütze is correct