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maschinelle Übersetzung
„Ich suche meine Nachkommen. Eine Micke-Familie aus Brasilien im Jahr 1922. Religion wahrscheinlich Baptist.“
„Ich suche meine Nachkommen. Eine Micke-Familie aus Brasilien im Jahr 1922. Religion wahrscheinlich Baptist.“
Seria desejável um pouco mais de informação. Está à procura de uma família MICKE? Porquê 1922? O que é que aconteceu no Brasil nesse ano? Um nascimento, um casamento, uma morte ou mesmo uma imigração? De onde veio esta família MICKE? Deve haver uma razão para estarem a ser procurados num fórum alemão. Quais são os nomes das pessoas cujos antepassados estão a ser procurados ou dos imigrantes para o Brasil? Trata-se de uma família ou de indivíduos? Quando imigraram e em que porto desembarcaram? Sem mais informações, provavelmente não conseguirá ir mais longe. Deve ser possível, pelo menos, delimitar aproximadamente as pessoas e suas origens. Para além disso, deve também conseguir encontrar uma ligação com os familiares brasileiros, pelo que é necessário nomear essas pessoas.
Também seria útil utilizar uma ferramenta de tradução (recomendo DeepL, é gratuita e eu próprio estou a utilizá-la para este texto) ou utilizar pelo menos a língua inglesa.
Eu próprio tenho antepassados MICKE (da Silésia; eles também se escreviam MÜCKE), mas não sei muito sobre eles e a semelhança de nomes por si só não significa nada. Este nome de família deve ter existido com mais frequência.
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Ein paar mehr Informationen wären schon wünschenswert. Eine Familie MICKE wird gesucht? Wieso 1922? Was ist in diesem Jahr in Brasilien passiert? Eine Geburt, eine Heirat, ein Sterbefall oder gar die Einwanderung? Von wo ist diese Familie MICKE gekommen? Es muss ja einen Grund geben, wieso nach ihnen in einem deutschen Forum gesucht wird. Wie heißen die Personen, deren Vorfahren gesucht werden bzw. der Einwanderer nach Brasilien? War es eine Familie oder Einzelpersonen? Wann sind sie eingewandert und in welchem Hafen sind sie gelandet? Ohne irgendwelche weiterführenden Informationen werden Sie wohl nicht weiterkommen. Man müsste schon die Personen und deren Herkunft wenigstens grob eingrenzen können. Zudem muss man auch einen Anschluss an die brasilianischen Verwandten finden können, weshalb die Nennung dieser Personen notwendig ist.
Zudem wäre die Nutzung eines Übersetzungstools (hier empfehle ich DeepL, das ist kostenlos und das benutze ich selbst gerade auch für diesen Text) oder auch die Verwendung von zumindest der englischen Sprache hilfreich.
Ich habe selbst MICKE-Vorfahren (aus Schlesien; die schrieben sich u.a. auch MÜCKE), aber zu denen ist mir nicht viel bekannt und die Namensgleichheit allein heißt leider gar nichts. Diesen Familiennamen wird es wohl noch öfters gegeben haben.
Também seria útil utilizar uma ferramenta de tradução (recomendo DeepL, é gratuita e eu próprio estou a utilizá-la para este texto) ou utilizar pelo menos a língua inglesa.
Eu próprio tenho antepassados MICKE (da Silésia; eles também se escreviam MÜCKE), mas não sei muito sobre eles e a semelhança de nomes por si só não significa nada. Este nome de família deve ter existido com mais frequência.
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Hier nochmal auf Deutsch für die anderen Mitleser:
Ein paar mehr Informationen wären schon wünschenswert. Eine Familie MICKE wird gesucht? Wieso 1922? Was ist in diesem Jahr in Brasilien passiert? Eine Geburt, eine Heirat, ein Sterbefall oder gar die Einwanderung? Von wo ist diese Familie MICKE gekommen? Es muss ja einen Grund geben, wieso nach ihnen in einem deutschen Forum gesucht wird. Wie heißen die Personen, deren Vorfahren gesucht werden bzw. der Einwanderer nach Brasilien? War es eine Familie oder Einzelpersonen? Wann sind sie eingewandert und in welchem Hafen sind sie gelandet? Ohne irgendwelche weiterführenden Informationen werden Sie wohl nicht weiterkommen. Man müsste schon die Personen und deren Herkunft wenigstens grob eingrenzen können. Zudem muss man auch einen Anschluss an die brasilianischen Verwandten finden können, weshalb die Nennung dieser Personen notwendig ist.
Zudem wäre die Nutzung eines Übersetzungstools (hier empfehle ich DeepL, das ist kostenlos und das benutze ich selbst gerade auch für diesen Text) oder auch die Verwendung von zumindest der englischen Sprache hilfreich.
Ich habe selbst MICKE-Vorfahren (aus Schlesien; die schrieben sich u.a. auch MÜCKE), aber zu denen ist mir nicht viel bekannt und die Namensgleichheit allein heißt leider gar nichts. Diesen Familiennamen wird es wohl noch öfters gegeben haben.
Bom Dia! Obrigado por responder. Sou neto de Gustavo Micke (1906-1958). Ele chegou no Brasil em 1925, com 19 anos, vindo da Alemanha, via Rússia (provavelmente). Veio ele, seus pais Eduard Micke(1850-1930) e Alvine Meuseln(1850-1930). Veio com vários irmãos. Eram Batistas, mas meu avó mudou para a Igreja Luterana. Saíram da Alemanha Oriental e embarcaram num navio com destino ao Brasil como clandestinos. O capitão do navio se chamava Adolf. Ficou na Alemanha um irmão de meu avô, e outro foi para os EUA clandestinamente. Obrigado por pesquisar sobre minha família.
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Die Hamburger(!!) Passagierliste (Abfahrt in Hamburg am 30. März 1926) auf der die Familie Mick [Micke] verzeichnet ist, findet man bei Ancestry wie folgt
Name Gustav Mick
Geschlecht männlich
Ethnische Herkunft/ Nationalität Staatenlos
Zivilstand ledig (Alleinstehend)
Alter bei der Abreise 19
Geburtsdatum circa 1907
Wohnort Karlsburg
Abreisedatum 30. Mär 1926
Abreiseort Hamburg, Deutschland
Ziel Santos
Ankunftsort Vigo; Madeira; Rio de Janeiro; Santos; Montevideo; Buenos Aires
Beruf Landarbeiter
Schiffsname Holm
Haushaltmitglieder (Name, Alter)
Eduard Mick, 54
Alwine Mick, 48
Maria Mick, 27
Emil Mick, 25
Gustav Mick, 19
Amalie Mick, 16
Lydia Mick, 14
Tabea Mick, 12
Ewald Mick, 10
Elsa Mick, 8
Hedwig Mick, 5
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Name Gustav Mick
Geschlecht männlich
Ethnische Herkunft/ Nationalität Staatenlos
Zivilstand ledig (Alleinstehend)
Alter bei der Abreise 19
Geburtsdatum circa 1907
Wohnort Karlsburg
Abreisedatum 30. Mär 1926
Abreiseort Hamburg, Deutschland
Ziel Santos
Ankunftsort Vigo; Madeira; Rio de Janeiro; Santos; Montevideo; Buenos Aires
Beruf Landarbeiter
Schiffsname Holm
Haushaltmitglieder (Name, Alter)
Eduard Mick, 54
Alwine Mick, 48
Maria Mick, 27
Emil Mick, 25
Gustav Mick, 19
Amalie Mick, 16
Lydia Mick, 14
Tabea Mick, 12
Ewald Mick, 10
Elsa Mick, 8
Hedwig Mick, 5
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Sofern sich die in der oben genannten Passagierliste gemachte Ortsangabe "Karlsburg" auf Karlsburg in Vorpommern bezieht........ (den Ortsnamen Karlsburg gibt es mehrfach!!)
Bei FamilySearch ist ein evangelisches Kirchenbuch von Zarnekow, wohin Carlsburg / Karlsburg eingepfarrt war, als Duplikat für den Zeitraum 1843 bis 1874 für Geburten / Taufen, Heiraten und Todesfälle / Beerdigungen verfügbar
Link zu diesem Kirchenbuch siehe hier
www.pommerscher-greif.de
(oder direkt bei FamilySearch - nach(!) vorheriger Anmeldung)
de.wikipedia.org
Bei FamilySearch ist ein evangelisches Kirchenbuch von Zarnekow, wohin Carlsburg / Karlsburg eingepfarrt war, als Duplikat für den Zeitraum 1843 bis 1874 für Geburten / Taufen, Heiraten und Todesfälle / Beerdigungen verfügbar
Link zu diesem Kirchenbuch siehe hier
Kirchenbuchübersicht Kreis – Pommerscher Greif e.V.
www.pommerscher-greif.de
(oder direkt bei FamilySearch - nach(!) vorheriger Anmeldung)
Karlsburg (Vorpommern) – Wikipedia
Muito obrigado! Vocês são muito organizados! Eu admiro os alemães. Minha mãe, filha do Gustav Mick, sabia falar o alemão, me ensinou um pouco, mas logo esqueci. Tenho orgulho de ter sangue alemão em minha família. Se encontrar mais material, por favor me envie, e eu estarei compartilhando com a família.
Hola Adriano, me llamo Maren, no se hablar portuges, solamente un poco espanol. Podemos escribir en ingles? O aleman?
My great-grandfather was Adolf Mück, he had 10 siblings (Albert, Maria, Emil, Gustav, Amalie, Lydia, Thabea, Ewald, Elsa and Hedwig). Their parents were Eduard and Alvine Mück who lived somewhere in Russia/Ukraine (we suppose in a Region named Volhynia). Eduard, Alvine and all kids left East Prussia (where they lived until 192x) for Brasil expect the oldest son (Albert) who left in 191x for USA (Milwaukee) and Adolf, who stayed in Germany.
About over 20years ago we had lovely guests in south of Germany: Loni and Silvio. Loni's Dad was Ewald Micke. Perhaps you know them? Do you think this is the family you are looking for?
If yes, I would love to get in touch with you!
Best regards,
Maren
My great-grandfather was Adolf Mück, he had 10 siblings (Albert, Maria, Emil, Gustav, Amalie, Lydia, Thabea, Ewald, Elsa and Hedwig). Their parents were Eduard and Alvine Mück who lived somewhere in Russia/Ukraine (we suppose in a Region named Volhynia). Eduard, Alvine and all kids left East Prussia (where they lived until 192x) for Brasil expect the oldest son (Albert) who left in 191x for USA (Milwaukee) and Adolf, who stayed in Germany.
About over 20years ago we had lovely guests in south of Germany: Loni and Silvio. Loni's Dad was Ewald Micke. Perhaps you know them? Do you think this is the family you are looking for?
If yes, I would love to get in touch with you!
Best regards,
Maren
Hello Maren,
I was very excited to find your message because I believe we are indeed from the same Micke/Mück family.
My name is Marina Moreno, and I live in Brazil. Adriano, who participated earlier in this discussion, is my cousin. I recently started researching our family history myself and came across this thread and your message.
Gustav Micke (Gustavo Micke in Brazil) was my maternal grandfather. He married Gisela Westermann in Nova Europa, São Paulo, Brazil. Their daughter Edvirges Micke Moreno (1942–1997) was my mother.
The names you mentioned — Albert, Maria, Emil, Gustav, Amalie, Lydia, Tabea, Ewald, Elsa, Hedwig and Adolf, children of Eduard and Alwine/Alvine — match the family we have been researching.
So, if your great-grandfather Adolf Mück was Gustav’s brother, we are indeed relatives through Eduard and Alwine, which is wonderful to discover!
Our family settled in Nova Europa, in the state of São Paulo, where there was a strong German immigrant community. Gustavo and Gisela had several children, including my mother Edvirges and her twin sister Olga.
I would love to exchange information with you. I am especially interested in learning what your family knows about Eduard and Alwine, where they lived before the family separated, and the origins of the Micke/Mück family in Europe. In our branch of the family, we always knew that my grandfather came from Germany, but much of the history before his arrival in Brazil was lost over the generations, at least for me as my mother died when I was 13 years old and I lost contact with her family side.
Do you have any documents, photographs, birth or marriage records, names of earlier ancestors, or information about the places where Eduard, Alwine and their children lived?
I have also taken a genealogical DNA test, so it would be very interesting to compare information if you or someone in your family has done one as well.
It is quite amazing to find a descendant of the branch that remained in Germany almost exactly 100 years after Gustav and his family came to Brazil.
Warm greetings from Brazil,
Marina Moreno
I was very excited to find your message because I believe we are indeed from the same Micke/Mück family.
My name is Marina Moreno, and I live in Brazil. Adriano, who participated earlier in this discussion, is my cousin. I recently started researching our family history myself and came across this thread and your message.
Gustav Micke (Gustavo Micke in Brazil) was my maternal grandfather. He married Gisela Westermann in Nova Europa, São Paulo, Brazil. Their daughter Edvirges Micke Moreno (1942–1997) was my mother.
The names you mentioned — Albert, Maria, Emil, Gustav, Amalie, Lydia, Tabea, Ewald, Elsa, Hedwig and Adolf, children of Eduard and Alwine/Alvine — match the family we have been researching.
So, if your great-grandfather Adolf Mück was Gustav’s brother, we are indeed relatives through Eduard and Alwine, which is wonderful to discover!
Our family settled in Nova Europa, in the state of São Paulo, where there was a strong German immigrant community. Gustavo and Gisela had several children, including my mother Edvirges and her twin sister Olga.
I would love to exchange information with you. I am especially interested in learning what your family knows about Eduard and Alwine, where they lived before the family separated, and the origins of the Micke/Mück family in Europe. In our branch of the family, we always knew that my grandfather came from Germany, but much of the history before his arrival in Brazil was lost over the generations, at least for me as my mother died when I was 13 years old and I lost contact with her family side.
Do you have any documents, photographs, birth or marriage records, names of earlier ancestors, or information about the places where Eduard, Alwine and their children lived?
I have also taken a genealogical DNA test, so it would be very interesting to compare information if you or someone in your family has done one as well.
It is quite amazing to find a descendant of the branch that remained in Germany almost exactly 100 years after Gustav and his family came to Brazil.
Warm greetings from Brazil,
Marina Moreno
Hello Marina,
I‘m so happy to hear from you! Yes, it seems we have the same ancestors which are wonderful news
I‘m so glad to get to know you!
Unfortunatley, I have only little Information. Everything (documents, photos…) was lost when Adolf had to flee with his family after world war II.
I will share all information I have with you. Would it be okay for you to exchange the information by mail? My mailadress is:
maren_weinschenk.....
The information I have is mostly from my uncle. He received the information from Loni Micke, who visited our Family in south of Germany about 25 years ago. I tried to get in contact with Loni several times in the last year, but I wasn‘t sucessful
Do you have any contact information from Loni? The last address I know was in Sao Paulo.
Loni was in good touch with aunt Amalie. I suppose she got. most information from aunt Amalie.
I look forward hearing from you,
Maren Weinschenk
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I‘m so happy to hear from you! Yes, it seems we have the same ancestors which are wonderful news
I‘m so glad to get to know you!
Unfortunatley, I have only little Information. Everything (documents, photos…) was lost when Adolf had to flee with his family after world war II.
I will share all information I have with you. Would it be okay for you to exchange the information by mail? My mailadress is:
maren_weinschenk.....
The information I have is mostly from my uncle. He received the information from Loni Micke, who visited our Family in south of Germany about 25 years ago. I tried to get in contact with Loni several times in the last year, but I wasn‘t sucessful
Do you have any contact information from Loni? The last address I know was in Sao Paulo.
Loni was in good touch with aunt Amalie. I suppose she got. most information from aunt Amalie.
I look forward hearing from you,
Maren Weinschenk
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Okay, vielen Dank für den Hinweis.Hello Marina,
I‘m so happy to hear from you! Yes, it seems we have the same ancestors which are wonderful news
I‘m so glad to get to know you!
Unfortunatley, I have only little Information. Everything (documents, photos…) was lost when Adolf had to flee with his family after world war II.
I will share all information I have with you. Would it be okay for you to exchange the information by mail? My mailadress is:
maren_weinschenk.....
The information I have is mostly from my uncle. He received the information from Loni Micke, who visited our Family in south of Germany about 25 years ago. I tried to get in contact with Loni several times in the last year, but I wasn‘t sucessful
Do you have any contact information from Loni? The last address I know was in Sao Paulo.
Loni was in good touch with aunt Amalie. I suppose she got. most information from aunt Amalie.
I look forward hearing from you,
Maren Weinschenk
Moderatorenhinweis: Die Emailadresse wurde aus dem o.a. Beitrag entfernt. Bitte nutzen Sie für einen entsprechenden Austauch die PN - Private Nachricht / Direkte Nachricht (Briefumschlag-Symbol rechts oben im Fenster).
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